Explore the world of One Health Lessons with Deborah Thomson and Marco Ciappelli as they reveal the intricate connections between human, animal, and environmental health; and the importance of education and global collaboration.
Guest: Deborah Thomson, Founder and CEO at One Health Lessons [@OneHealthLesson]
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
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Episode Introduction
"Explore the world of One Health Lessons with Deborah Thomson and Marco Ciappelli as they reveal the intricate connections between human, animal, and environmental health; and the importance of education and global collaboration."
Welcome to another exciting episode of the Redefining Society Podcast, where your host Marco Ciappelli delves deep into the fascinating world of One Health with a special guest, Deborah Thomson, a veterinarian, and founder of the nonprofit One Health Lessons. In this episode, you'll be taken on a journey of understanding the intricate connections between human, animal, and environmental health and how they affect each other. Together, Marco and Deborah explore the crucial role of education in fostering a greater understanding of our interdependence and the importance of teamwork among professionals from diverse disciplines.
Deborah shares her inspiring story of how she created One Health Lessons and its global impact, thanks to technology and dedicated individuals from around the world. The conversation highlights the importance of teaching children and adults about the One Health concept, as well as the powerful impact of understanding the complexity of nature.
Join us as we delve into the world of One Health, the eureka moments that come with learning about it, and how people from all over the world are embracing this vital knowledge. Be prepared to be intrigued and inspired as you learn about the interconnectedness of life on our planet and how each of us can play a role in preserving and protecting it. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking conversation – share it, subscribe to the podcast, and help spread the word about One Health Lessons.
About One Health Lessons
One Health Lessons is a 501(c)3 educational charity non-profit organization that inspires children and adults around the world to value the interconnection between our health and the health of the environment, animals, and plants.
We live in One World. It’s time to talk about One Health. Inspiring the next generation to see the world as one.
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Marco Ciappelli01:52
All right, here we are redefining society podcast with me Marco Ciappelli. And the big let's call it network we call a network later is ITSPmagazine, where we have a lot of different conversation, a lot of different hosts than I have retain my own niche, little little space for redefining society, which is what I'm passionate about. And often we talk about technology and how it affects society, from AI to advanced technology to anyway, the way we do social media that way that affects our life, because we cannot ignore that. But there is other things that affect our life in our society. And I think we are lately, really, really aware of it with climate change with changes that we have created and provoked in this environment that we are, you know, part of, and and I like the idea of thinking in a very synergistic way where we're learning, you're looking at documentary, what happening in Africa is affecting us what's happening, Antarctica is affecting people in Italy or in South Africa. So today, we're going to talk about one health lessons. And we're going to do that with Deborah Thompson, which is here with us. If you're watching the video. She is right there, waving at us. If you listen to the audio. Well, here she is. Hi, Deborah, how are you?
Deborah Thomson03:23
Hi, Marco, thanks so much for the invitation to be here.
Marco Ciappelli03:26
It was long do I mean, first of all, we need to say that we are part of the mental project. That's how we met. And so we're passionate about teaching, we're passionate about talking to the next generation and share our you know, knowledge wherever that is. So what moved you to become a mentor? And what moved you to create the organization, the nonprofit you've created, most of all, who are you? So let's start there. A little bit about yourself.
Deborah Thomson04:01
Big Questions, Marco. Thank you.
Marco Ciappelli04:03
Who am I? I know I don't
Deborah Thomson04:05
lie. It's one of the few questions so tell me about yourself. Well, I was born. Stay right. me about yourself. So nice to meet you everybody. with it. SP magazine, and I am Deborah Thompson. I am a veterinarian. By training. I have created something called One Health lessons. We're a nonprofit that teaches children and adults around the world about one health and you might think well what on earth is one health? One Health can be described in two different ways a concept and an approach. The concept is just that connection between our health and the health of the environment, animals, plants, you know your surroundings, sick environment, sick people, it's all connected. And then we go one step further and also teach about the One Health approach which is ultimate Leave teamwork. It's teamwork between people of different backgrounds, discipline strengths, we come together, and we solve and prevent health problems. So that way the community stay safer. But how did I get into one health? Wow, that's a big question. I first learned about One Health, the concept and the approach back in 2008, when I was going to veterinary school, but who am I? I am an educator. I have been an educator since 2001, actually. And while my youngest student was five to six, my oldest student was around 65. I taught lots of different subjects. But I did not know about one health when I was teaching full time. When 2008 I was in veterinary school, and I learned about the concept I thought two things. Number one my life finally make sense. And why wasn't I teaching this all along? Right? If I knew as a teacher, and working in a middle school full time, if I was teaching my students about one health, would that have made a difference in society, or in the community, right? And then I was thinking, well, if I was a student, and I was six years old, and I was learning about one health and how you know, you shouldn't litter because that impacts the wildlife nearby and wildlife can carry possible diseases, we can give diseases to wildlife. So just having that concept in mind, as a six year old, would have changed the trajectory of my life, right.
Marco Ciappelli06:45
So let me stop it because I this is kind of like one of my duh moment, meaning it makes so much sense. And I'm like you I look back and I'm like, you know, and I went through school, through college through everything. And even in large part of my life, I'm always like, you know, okay, there's that there's that there's that and now much like, every dot just connect it. So why did it took us so long?
Deborah Thomson07:16
Exactly. Exactly. Right. And when I was thinking about veterinary school, I was not necessarily thinking about a veterinarian working with a physician working with an ecologist working with a policymaker, right, those links weren't there in my brain. But that's what the real life real world needs to solve complicated problems and to prevent problems. So, yeah, just about three years ago, I created one health lessons, and we've gone viral, not not necessarily, there. But we've, we've made a difference so far. And I'm very proud of the team.
Marco Ciappelli07:58
That's great. And that's only three years ago. So I thought it was actually longer than that. But so how is it going? That's that's a good question. I mean, you said it's going viral. So you know, I see the double meaning there. I don't want to go there, though. But, but I do want to know, why do you think is being received so well? I mean, again, it's again, it's common sense, but we don't, we don't think about it. But the moment that you see it, you cannot unsee it anymore.
Deborah Thomson08:28
Right? Exactly.
Marco Ciappelli08:31
It's like what's the first? Yeah. So what was the first reaction when you go somewhere in a class with kids that you presented for the first time? Do you get that a will? rica moment, like, Yeah, makes sense.
Deborah Thomson08:44
I see the light bulbs going off all over. Sure. And the way I design lessons, I want the kids and adults because these lessons are available for children as young as six years old, and for adults as well. It's always age appropriate lessons. But I designed these lessons to get the students to laugh, to play to have fun to focus on the activity. And oh, by the way, we're learning at the same time. That's just how I've always developed my lesson plans. But I guess the question that you had asked earlier is, you know, a eureka moment. And how, how this actually went viral or how this got around the world so quickly, in a positive way. Well, this is where technology plays in Marco.
Marco Ciappelli09:38
Welcome to my world.
Deborah Thomson09:39
Technology has changed my life and has changed 1000s of people's lives for the better, especially in this case. So I've been teaching when I was used to live in California, on my days off from the clinic from the animal hospital. I used to go into classrooms and teach lessons about one health that I I've developed after hours, you know, after my 10 to 12 hour work days in the clinic, I go home and I relaxed by creating lessons for kids and adults about one health. That's just how I could exercise my brain in a non clinical manner. You know what I mean? Um, so then on my days off, I go into classrooms, and I teach this material I want to connect with, with an influencer with somebody who I had great respect for. She taught at Harvard and UCLA. And I heard through the grapevine that we had a mutual connection. So I reached out to my mutual connection. And I asked her if she can introduce me to this role model. And she said, Sure, she knew what I was doing all along, and California in that community, right. But she said, what's your website? I'll share it with her. Oh, oh.
Marco Ciappelli10:57
You realize something was missing in the One Health approach?
Deborah Thomson11:01
Yeah, you know how there's a to do list, right? There's something that always falls down to the bottom of the to do list, or you'll get to it later. That was building the website. Over a course of a few months, one health lessons.org was built at that time, was.com. But then we switched it over to.org. And within the first 30 days, the 11 different age appropriate lessons that actually focused on COVID, at that time, had been already started to be translated into 10 languages. Wow, within the first month, right. And that was just word of mouth. So clearly, people saw the need to bring this into the communities, this knowledge into communities. And they wanted to take that extra action to translate these lessons so that it becomes accessible to members of their own community wherever they are on this planet.
Marco Ciappelli12:00
So give me an example of one less than one topic that maybe you can think as symbolizes or maybe the first lesson you did, I don't know, whatever it is very relevant for you are the one that had one more viral than others. So what are these lesson about?
Deborah Thomson12:18
Yeah, so I can talk about a portion of a lesson that we are revamping and we're going to be putting out later this month is called discovering One Health. And we have a picture of a forest. Okay. And we say they're a little animals all floating around the picture, like, you know, foxes and rodents and, and birds and bats. And we asked the students, okay, pretend you're in a forest, right? Pretend the sun is shining, the water is clean, the air is clean. Everybody in this photo is happy and healthy, and you don't have to compete so much for food or shelter. And then I asked the students tell me what changes in the next picture. Switch to the next slide. The next slide is about two thirds of that forest is still there, same number of animals, but two thirds of the forest is still there. That last third of the forest was replaced with humans. So we have the conversation, what happens to the animals in the situation? Well, if we have to compete for more areas for you know, sources of food for shelter, well, then that's stressful, right? And then we talked about cortisol, the stress hormone, we talked about the immune system, how that can. cortisol, the stress hormone can kind of weaken the immune system. And so you could show more signs of diseases. But by then the students already know about something called a zoonotic disease, a disease that can jump between different species. So if an animal is coughing or sneezing and blowing the germs, any which way? Well, how does that play into human health? Right? And so we have a conversation. And then the next slide, the forest gets smaller, and we say, okay, pretend that say, all the birds leave the little birds, the little chicken ease and all the Hawks. Now let's look at the photo and see what could change. Talking about biodiversity. A lot of people don't realize that, because the food web is in every ecosystem. If say the birds leave, well, then they're going to be more rodents, they're going to be more foxes. Right. And they're going to be less trees because the pollinators are gone. The seed dispersers are less, right. So it's these conversations and the kids are glued to the screen, because we ask them, what are the changes what will happen? What do you think could happen? And then how can you fix that? Believe it or not, this works very well for kids of any age, as long as you present it in a white in the correct way. And we have a train the trainer program to teach people how to communicate in a more efficient manner.
Marco Ciappelli15:15
Train the Trainer is one of my favorite thing. My question usually is who is educating the educators? So it's kind of the same thing, right? So how do we pass the knowledge and, and I talk about that a lot about technology, because I feel like sometimes we have a gap where the parents are teaching the kids or the teacher should kit teach the kids that have not Avon on the phone that's on a smartphone, not a phone was a smartphone. But they don't even know about it. They don't understand the algorithm, they don't understand, you know, how social media works. And so So, you know, that's very complicated, but also very complicated the way that nature works, but until you get the point that if these then that, then then everything, I think it becomes a little bit more understandable. And I mean, I can see, I can see in my head, the kids getting excited, like ask him probably gazillion of questions. And and then they go home. And they probably asked, they say, This is what I learned today that tells you the parents and probably parents are like, oh, yeah, I have no idea. So how do people get involved in this? I mean, do you usually like people that are part of the lesson decided I want to help you with is the schools and how does?
Deborah Thomson16:36
Yeah, so it was it's honestly been a rather organic experience. People from around the world know us on LinkedIn or other social media accounts, and they come up and they said, You know, I want this to be in Hausa, for instance, house is a language spoken in Nigeria, I want this to be accessible to my community and Hausa, I want to bring this to my community. Well, we're like, wonderful, here's the material. If you can translate it, then we can post it on our website so that way more Hausa communities can learn from this. And that's how the translators worked. When it comes to bringing these lessons into classrooms, because we act as science guests like sighs role models, stem role models. What happens is that the teachers reach out and email lesson Leaders Program at Gmail, I can give you the link, but lesson leaders program@gmail.com. And so and just say, I'm interested, I have a group of 20 students between eight and nine years old, when can we do this? And that's how we arrange lessons in communities around the world. The other added benefit to that honestly, is, and this happened indirectly, I was not expecting it. But I'm thrilled it's happening. So for instance, somebody in Nigeria, who's bilingual, who's also speaks English, that person can teach virtually a classroom in California. And that serves to improve cultural awareness, cultural sensitivities, cultural exchanges, and improves based on teacher survey feedback. Also, appreciation for geography.
Marco Ciappelli18:27
Yes, needed.
Deborah Thomson18:29
Yes. And just an awareness of technological capabilities around the world.
Marco Ciappelli18:38
I like that. So you can do it, it's a on location and in person. And he is, of course, the amplification of it now, this three years certainly have taught us how to accelerate all these evolution of our society into being an hybrid of virtual in person. And I mean, that's wonderful. I don't care how many you know, the remote work, but also the getting connected one another, like, I give you an example, big conferences on cybersecurity, like the one in San Francisco in a couple of weeks. They, they've been going virtual, but then now they're back on location, they're still virtual, because why not? Not everybody can fly, spend all their money pay the hotel, one thing and another and everybody should know about that topic. So I love this. And also another thing that I want to ask you is this because when we look at the globe, as a one one planet as it should, like astronaut goes, the overview effect. I like oh my god. Yeah, no, seriously. That's like it is but but I also am a big fan of retaining the the importance of the queue Unity and the individual culture where we can all work together yet be all different one another. And when you were telling me that's the thing about the Nigeria, or the different geographic area, I'm guessing and I want to know this from you, that people that are experts on in their own environment, they can bring example of a kind of vegetation and animals and things that happen geographically, as a climate in that environment. But also still see that there is a thread that connects all of this, you got it? My Correct,
Deborah Thomson20:37
yes, you have it exactly. And when we teach in person, we encourage the train the trainer, so the trainers, and the trainees to ultimately teach these lessons in your local community in your own first language. Because it's received so much better. If it's with somebody who you know, right, somebody you can relate to somebody who's lived in your community for all of their life, right? Plus, they can tweak some of the messaging in order to apply it locally. That is so important. So there's that local component, but then also that cultural exchange that that can happen because of technology, it's only possible because of technology.
Marco Ciappelli21:24
Now, so how does somebody become involved in this? So you said some eye contact, you say I want to do this in my schools? Okay, who is the who's the ambassador or the teacher? And so what happened? Do you train these people? Do they become part of how, how they
Deborah Thomson21:43
work? Okay, so we have a four step training process for the train the trainer system. The first is a four hour system, the first hour is to attend an orientation session where the adults usually it's an adult, who of course, has to undergo certain background checks and things like that. So the adult of any background, goes through an orientation session that reviews how to speak with a six year old versus a 16 year old versus a 60 year old. A lot of people come into this program thinking, Oh, I know all about one health or I know all about public health, or global health, or wherever they're coming from. Great. But can you communicate it, that's the thing. Then the second hour after the orientation is to observe a recording of me teaching various ages, and then they have to pass an exam. And the exam not necessarily focused on on one health as a concept or an approach, but it focuses on teaching techniques. The third hour is to observe a live lesson virtually or in person. And the fourth hour is to actually teach a lesson with students, at least four students need to be present in the class. So if you're a parent listening to this and say, Hey, I have two kids, and they have a bunch of friends, they have a Girl Scout, Girl Scout troop, a Brownie troop, whatever it is, and I want the troop to learn about one health than just email less than leaders program@gmail.com and say, I have a troop. Therefore, we have the trainers and the trainees going into these classrooms virtually or in person and teaching from there. If trainer wants to advance their, their position, they have to teach at least five times and we have documentation for that. And then they become an ambassador, Ambassador, then they have to train others locally. How to go through that whole system. Does that mean? I know it's a lot of steps?
Marco Ciappelli23:59
No, no, no, it might it makes sense. It reminds me other, you know, other level of advancement in many other organization like you can do these without experience. But But Mike, one thing I want to know is this does it require for people to be already, let's say very knowledgeable in that topic, like doesn't need to be like, Oh, I'm not biologist so yeah, sure. I can do this very easily. But if I am not one of the specialization, not so anybody can say anybody can learn it and teach it.
Deborah Thomson24:34
Exactly. If you feel like one health is important to you, and you care about it enough. We will teach you how to teach
Marco Ciappelli24:41
this and the topic itself. Yeah.
Deborah Thomson24:45
I remember in 2018 I was going into a classroom. I think it was in Oakland, California. And I had three of my friends go in with me. One was a water analyst So, a second one sold insurance to companies. And the other one was a sound engineer. And we were all teaching about one health to a group of, I think it was 30, some eight year olds and nine year old.
Marco Ciappelli25:17
That's cool. I love it. Now, let's go back to something I'm really passionate about as somebody that does podcast and branding, and always keep an audience in mind, make it understandable, because sometimes people are great experts, but they just can't teach. It's almost like, if you are a great athlete, doesn't mean you're a great coach. Because sometimes, like I just do it, it's natural to me and others may not be the best athlete, but they're fantastic. Teachers. So what does it change in the teaching technique in, you know, in a very overview kind of way, you know, you don't need to give away all the technique, but give me some example of how would you represent a specific topic to six years old, or 14 years old? or 20 years old? And so on? I mean, how much do you have to change your script, your delivery your? How does that work?
Deborah Thomson26:21
Right? I'll give you two examples. For six year olds, for instance, if we talked about different species, the word species, okay? Because we have to talk about zoonotic diseases, diseases that can or germs that can jump between different species. But what is the species? The way we describe it to six year olds is we say if two cats can make kittens, what can two dogs make? And everybody else out? Puppy is okay, great. But can a cat and a dog make babies? And some of them are like you. Yeah. And some are like, no, no, no. And then some of them have that like, oval nod, that they're like, I'm not really sure. And I say even though it would be super cute. It's not possible because they're different species. Now, do we have to explain that to adults? No, we skip over that, right? Sure. Um, but when we talk about mutations, because it's a part of nature, right? Believe it or not, we talk about mutations with six year olds. And the way we do that is we say mutation has changed. If you just think about it, simply mutation has changed. It can strengthen something, it can weaken something or it could just change something and just make it no odd, but not necessarily change the strength, you know, just just different, and that's fine. So there are lots of different ways something can mutate. There are point mutations, there's genetic reassortment. But with point mutations, that's when some a little blip happens in the DNA. At a particular spot in the DNA, either there's a missed component of the DNA or there's an addition to the DNA either way, the product product changes. So how on earth do we get kids to understand point mutations? Well, we do tongue twisters. And tongue twisters work in any language. And it even works in American Sign Language, and wouldn't be a tongue per se. But this is applicable anywhere on the planet. A tongue twister, we say this is a model for point mutation. And let's say this five times fast, and the kids compete reading the tongue twister, and we say how many mutations? Have you heard?
Marco Ciappelli28:56
Never heard that before. That's cool. Sounds
Deborah Thomson28:59
Yeah. And honestly, it's very difficult to move on after that particular slide is covered because every child wants to compete. But that works even for adults. Just to prove the point. We say, you know, if you want to explain point mutations to your children or your grandchildren, this is a good way to do it.
Marco Ciappelli29:20
That's kind of cool. I like that. I like that. So give me an example of a conversation around the environment. Cuz you know, animals are cute and puppies and all of that and medicals, it started get complex. But everybody right now it's talking about the environment. So what are the most popular top 10 topic to teach about the environment nowadays?
Deborah Thomson29:49
Yeah, well, good question. Um, certainly deforestation, you know, getting rid of habitats for animals and making inhospitable Will environments for people because of erosion, for instance? That's certainly one plastics in the environment is another and how does plastics play a role in one health? Well, certainly it contaminates waterways and lands, but microplastics as well. But then taking it one step further, can the food that's attached to the plastic attract wildlife, right. And then we have that whole conversation all over again. And, of course, the differences of temperatures that we have been seeing around the planet, believe it or not, there are a different species on the planet, that depending on where the egg is, say, for instance, an alligator, the depth of the egg in the sand, and the temperature of the sand will dictate the gender of that animal. So then we think, if they're not going to be enough males or females, well, what's going to happen to the population, what's going to happen to the food web, right, and the whole conversation happens again,
Marco Ciappelli31:10
it's likely one of those game where you say a word and then you connect with another word that is connected to that. And then you find yourself talking about something completely different from the original word, but they're all connected. And I think about food most of the time, because you know, when you talk organic, but then you're like, Okay, well, if the fish ate plastic, and you ate the fish, you eat the plastic, it's not that hard to understand. If the plastic gets in the, in the soil, the plant, getting the nutrition from the soil, you eat that plan. It's not that complicated. But here we are, right? It's not that complicated. But here we are having to teach all of this. I love it. But before we do, maybe a call to action to a how to get involved and and to learn more, and all of that. And by the way, I will put all the links to the organization to get in touch with you. And so when people listen to these podcasts, they can certainly read the notes or watch the video on YouTube and there will be notes there as well. But there is one part of I want to stick with the teaching the passion for teaching as I was reading your bio, and I see that before became me. I said I don't like to read but I will read this one before becoming a veterinarian. She taught music in a primary school teacher a math to adults who was full time instructor English language. So you were born a teacher, you are your natural born teacher. I how when did you discover this? I mean, let's talk about you. When did you discover this passion for, for doing this?
Deborah Thomson32:59
Um, you know, I don't know if it was ever discovered. It was just part of me. Even when I was a teenager I used was a camp counselor.
Marco Ciappelli33:10
You were always involved with that communication
Deborah Thomson33:15
and mentorship, right? Because it's, it's quite, um, I'll see it like this. As some people say, okay, you know, Debbie, wear lots of different hats. How do you keep going because it sounds exhausting. And it honestly is quite tiring. But where I get motivation is by seeing the work and the passion with the people who I have encountered with one health lessons and who I have trained through one health lesson. There are stories that I hear just pop up on occasion, I think of one person in Malaysia who contacted me out of the blue. And she said, You know, last year I took a boat two days to get to this, this very remote community. And I wanted to bring one health lessons there. I said, what, how was it received? She said, Well, you know, we speak different dialects. I said, Go on, how on earth did you communicate? And she goes, Well, you know, I showed the picture of the forest. I showed the picture of the people. And they got it. I said, Well, if you speak different languages, how can you how can you know that they got it, right? And she's Oh, well, they acted it out. These types of stories, you know, I will never I will say I'll never expect to meet those people in that remote community. But they now have that knowledge. Right There was there was a talking point between somebody from the city and somebody from the remote village. And that talking point was born from one health lessons. And I'm forever grateful for the opportunity to influence people and impact their lives and hopefully a positive way and impact their local environments to in their communities.
Marco Ciappelli35:26
Yeah, we go back to the concept of a global community that need to actually respect and highlight the local differences as well. So I love this and, and I think I would like to kind of go into another thing I'm passionate about, which is storytelling, which is also why you're pretty much referring to and how we didn't always have the language. But hey, that's what made us human as we are. So storytelling from one generation to another before the books, but also picturing things designing, showing Show and Tell just show figured out that this this story that you just tell it's a perfect example, because the basic need are all this thing, right? You can talk about food, the animal that you hunt, and you can go into the anthropology of things and, and you'll learn a lot for the future. And let's talk about technology in a way right now where I think like, Okay, I'm having a lot of episode about shut GPT. And I think is a great thing, but use it with captions, and educating, and so on. But here's the translation, I can get it translated into 25 languages in few minutes. I am seeing this as a great thing, I think also for what you're doing. But, but you can just have it automated. And I love your opinion on this. So the importance of the human presence in all of this. And what is your thoughts on that?
Deborah Thomson37:09
Yes, thank you for bringing this up. You know, three years ago, when we were going going through the heavy lift of all of the translations, because we right now we have lessons available in over 30 languages. To give you an idea of the reach there. We have trained people who are affiliated with 98 different countries. So to give you another number there. Wow, Google Translate existed three years ago. But I did not want to use Google Translate. I wanted people to be involved. Because that's how you meaningfully meaningfully conveyed this type of message so that it lands Well, right. The other thing that's important to realize is that just because say Portuguese is spoken and Mozambique in Portugal and Brazil. Sometimes you can't necessarily use the same type of Portuguese, right? So we had a really nice thorough conversation with the Portuguese team made up of 14 people to translate seven different lessons. And we had to figure out what type of Portuguese Should we try to use try to write in. And ultimately, it was decided that they wanted to go with the Brazilian Portuguese because Brazilian Portuguese is heard on the television more often in Portugal than vice versa. So at least they could read in that but then a Portugal Portuguese person can be speaking to kids in Portugal. Do you see what I mean? Yes. And of course they could tweak it where appropriate. But it's it's another it's another side of humanity that I don't think AI can appreciate at this point.
Marco Ciappelli39:16
I don't think we'll never but probably don't have conversation about that meaning that's what make us human man I'm not that's not the topic of this conversation. But I'm not a big fans of general artificial intelligence where I think becoming conscious or, or having emotions I it's hard. As much as I love sci fi. It's very hard. Maybe it will stay in the Sci Fi realm but but the fact that AI is a fantastic tool to facilitate certain things but then you need that, you know, that human overview and touch so and I think that's especially when it comes to kids and teaching you really that you know, One on one, even if it's a virtual a one on one like we're having right now, it's still I can see your face, I can, you know, read the body language and I think a kid really, really, really need that. So that's amazing. I love what you're doing. It's fantastic. And I'm so glad that we got to talk about this, we mentioned before we're recording the maybe we'll make either a serious about this, or we make it, you know, give a much bigger role of want to health lessons on ITSPmagazine, which I would love. So we'll leave that for a conversation between the two of us. But for the audience right now, I want to imagine and I know for sure that there's going to be some people there that say, Hey, I can do that. So I would like for you to take as much time as you need to make your call to action and and talk about the things that you may, you may benefit for the nonprofit because I think what you're doing it's it's, it's very fundamental for where we are right now in our society.
Deborah Thomson41:07
Thank you very much, Marco, I really appreciate this conversation and the opportunity to share about One Health lessons. Number one, I encourage everybody to go to one health lessons.org and explore that page. Number two, I encourage everybody, with or without a child doesn't matter. If you want us to teach a group of adults, we can do that. Just email lesson leaders program@gmail.com. And program is the American spelling PR, o g r a m, lesson leaders program@gmail.com. And we can connect to you. You can also request a language if you want it to be in Spanish, we can do that. If you want it in French, we can do that. Just let us know the needs of you and your group. In addition, we are going to be celebrating our third birthday very shortly. We're going to be posting on social media. So I encourage you to go on our social media, subscribe to our YouTube channel, just type in one health lessons. But we're on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and believe it or not, Tiktok not very active there. But we are there.
Marco Ciappelli42:29
Nice face. No, no. That's a joke. No. Although I still have an account there.
Deborah Thomson42:39
Awesome. Yep. 20 year olds out there will know what we're talking about.
Marco Ciappelli42:44
Okay, just data yourself. Okay, thank you.
Deborah Thomson42:48
But last but not least, we are definitely looking for funders, foundations, private funders, because what we ultimately want to do is create more lessons, lessons, focus on water, focus on plastics, focus on how different genders actually are impacted by various threats that are within the environment. Right. So we're looking for sponsorship for new lessons, we're looking for sponsorship to continue the train the trainer program, we have between 2020 and 2020 to about 1700 people, we want to continue this and we want to expand it. But we need your help. So we do have a donate button on our website. It's linked to our PayPal. So again, just go to one health lessons.org And you can contact us there as well. Thank you so much, Marco.
Marco Ciappelli43:46
Oh, that's great. I'm actually looking right now at all the all the partners that you have. And I mean, when you say three years for me, it's it's impressive what you guys it's almost thinking like, you know, gotta be at the right time at the right you know, the right place at the right time. But also, I think the passion that you are, you know, portrayed when and you're presenting this with it's just like I think it's a it's something that is contagious and I don't want to do another joke. It is you know, a it's a it is viral like a viral means that people get excited about this. Maybe they do know that there is they feel that there is a need for this. And maybe it can be as easy as just get involved and become an ambassador. Yeah. You said can be older people. Anybody get to the local library, do it to wherever, wherever you want to do it. So stay tuned. I have a feeling we'll talk more about these with you, Deborah on the show and again, all the things that you Did you mention all the links that will be in the notes? And I invite everybody to get in touch as far as redefining society, I appreciate if you subscribe if you share it, because if you're sharing this, you'll share also, everything else that we talk about. So stay tuned. Talk to you soon, Deborah. Real pleasure to have you on.
Deborah Thomson45:21
It's been a pleasure. Thank you again, Marco. Thank you.
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