Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli, and Cecilia Murtagh Marinier embark on a journey through the evolving landscape of technology and security, highlighting innovative programs and the transformative impact of AI at the RSA Conference 2024. Listen in for insightful discussions, personal anecdotes, and a glimpse into the future of cybersecurity that promises to engage and inspire listeners.
Guest: Cecilia Murtagh Marinier, Cybersecurity Advisor - Strategy, Innovation & Scholars at RSA Conference [@RSAConference]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-murtagh-marinier-14967/
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Episode Notes
In this new On Location with Sean and Marco episode, hosts Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli are joined by a special guest, Cecilia Murtagh Marinier, renowned for her pivotal role in overseeing innovation programs and scholar initiatives at the RSA Conference. The trio embarks on an insightful conversation, navigating through a myriad of topics central to the RSA Conference 2024 and the broader landscape of technology and security.
The discussion kicks off with a light-hearted exchange about the unpredictability of San Francisco weather and the personal tradition of acquiring new jackets during the RSA conferences. Quickly shifting gears, they delve into the anticipations surrounding the conference, reminiscing about past interactions with notable figures such as Linda, Britta, and Jessica Robinson, and emphasizing the vibrancy of aerospace village and upcoming discussions on sandbox innovation.
A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to the College Day, the scholar program, and the sandbox innovation, spotlighting the RSA Conference's commitment to nurturing the future generation of security professionals. Cecilia eloquently outlines her role in fostering innovation across the conference, with a special focus on contests and expos aimed at spotlighting emerging talents and startups within the cybersecurity realm.
Artificial Intelligence (AI) takes center stage as the trio explores its transformative impact on security practices and the anticipation of its further integration into the RSA Conference's themes. Cecilia shares insights into the Innovation Sandbox Contest and Launchpad, highlighting the remarkable potential and diversity of participating companies.
The episode is peppered with personal anecdotes and reflections on the evolution of the cybersecurity sector, underscoring the importance of community, diversity, and innovation. Special mention is made of the diverse tracks and villages at the RSA Conference, each offering unique perspectives on security and technology's role in society.
As the conversation winds down, excitement builds for the RSA Conference 2024, with encouraging calls for participation and engagement. The hosts reflect on the importance of community and innovation, urging listeners to stay tuned for what promises to be an extraordinary event.
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The Art of Possible: Getting a Peek into the Future of Cybersecurity Innovations | An RSA Conference 2024 Conversation With Cecilia Murtagh Marinier | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli
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Sean Martin: [00:00:00] Marco.
Marco Ciappelli: Sean.
Sean Martin: It's our, uh, favorite tradition.
Marco Ciappelli: Yep.
Sean Martin: It's that, uh, it's that time of year. The year's, the time has changed, but it's still that time of year.
Marco Ciappelli: It's getting more and more summery because it goes towards the summer, but because it's in San Francisco, we don't really know the weather, what it's going to be.
Sean Martin: That's why that's my favorite saying is I, I can't. Count the number of San Francisco jackets that I've purchased, leaving, leaving mine at home and realizing I need another one.
Marco Ciappelli: Yeah, you haven't learned yet. After, let me, let me, let me do for an RSA conference. How many have you done? 20,
Sean Martin: uh, 20, 20, 20 years of RSA.
I'm at
Marco Ciappelli: about 10. So I'm a baby compared to you. Well, we're going to go again.
Sean Martin: There we go. We're off, off and [00:01:00] running. This is our Chats on the Road to RSA Conference 2024. And Cecilia Marinier is on. How are you? So good to see you. I
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: am well and getting excited about RSA Conference. Us too, man. We are ready on that road to RSA Conference.
We are there on that journey.
Marco Ciappelli: Many people are excited about that. I mean, we had our first conversation with Linda and Britta. And so that's, that's in the, in the book. And then, uh, like I said, aerospace village, which was a lot of energy, as you know, uh, you know, those guys. So we're going to talk about the sandbox, uh, in this conversation as well.
And then, uh, who else we had on already, Sean, uh, Jessica, Jessica
Sean Martin: Robinson. Yeah.
Marco Ciappelli: That was a very good conversation too. So, and many more to come.
Sean Martin: Transcribed Lined up and I have a list about it doesn't even fit on the screen list longer than the screen [00:02:00] of People that I want to chat with and a number of sponsors also Telling some of their stories soon.
So but we're here to talk about the College Day the scholar program the sandbox the innovation All the people that do all kinds of cool things new and innovative Young and old all over the place. So not just talks. We talked, we did a lot of that with, uh, with Linda and Britta, but Cecilia, why don't you, um, before we get into a lot of the program stuff, I'm sure people who've listened to us before know who you are, but your, your current role, some of the things you look after as part of RSA conference now.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Yeah, so I am the minder of the all of the innovation programs and anything that deals with scholars. So I like to refer to myself as the one that's kind of thinking through the future and, uh, and bringing that into what's [00:03:00] happening at RSA conference. We have a lot going on as Linda and Britta were covering.
It's going to be an outrageous year, really excited with all of the people coming, uh, sharing their knowledge. But what I work on is Specifically on the contests on the early stage expo where we bring out the startups and where we have the security scholars and they're going to have a pitch off. So I'm happy to talk about any of that.
You let me know where you want to guide this conversation and I will jump right in. How
Sean Martin: about we start with, um, uh, I feel perhaps we leave the, uh, the scholar stuff to the end a lot. So let's start there this time.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: So as RSA conferences committed to that future generation, the cyber warriors, and we started a program back in 2016.
Yes, Sean, that is how long I have been doing this. Um, but from 2016 we've been bringing in around 30 to 70, 80 students [00:04:00] each year. Right now we're settling in around 60 because we found it to be a nice Um, and they're a four and a half by six size class. They come from over 40 schools. The schools represent all different kinds of backgrounds and technical areas of focus.
Um, and the students themselves also. So they might be bachelors. They might be masters. They might be PhDs. They're coming. They could be veterans and coming back into the field or there are people that are just getting started and they're just getting into this into cybersecurity as we speak. But these people were all selected by their directors as the future students.
Cyber warrior to represent their school and not necessarily your, you know, person that has a 4. 0. It's the person that's going to make a difference or really be impacted by coming to RSA conference and meeting all of the experts that come to the To conference and having this kind of really critical conversations and the cross fertilization of ideas.
And we're trying to build cohort groups where they can connect with one another so that as we look into the future, We are building [00:05:00] a, a group of people who can reach out to each other, learn from each other, build each other up and be there for one another. It's all about community.
Marco Ciappelli: You know, I want to talk about this because we make it, we're making fun about how many Shauna's done.
I've done, you've been doing this for many years. There is a lot of different generation now, um, in this industry. And so talking about community, talking about having those first day when you have the loyalty, the, the, the been there many times to connect with the people that come for the first time, then you got the student.
I mean, you are creating the future of this industry, and I want to connect with the theme because it's my job. So I have to talk about the art. Plus it's cool, right? Plus it connects with the creating the future, the art of possible. So how do you feel about this year? Theme and how much it fits in all you do.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: So I have [00:06:00] not seen and shame on me because I didn't see what Britta and Linda were talking about. But we just had a technical technological revolution with artificial intelligence and general AI that came through two years ago. Maybe not even maybe 18 months when you think about when open AI actually came to the fore.
And as someone who's leading the contests on both the innovation sandbox contest, which is old and established and launchpad, which is really looking at the At companies that are coming up and not quite ready for prime time, but they're just going out and pitching to venture capitalists. I'm really excited about the changes that we're seeing in how artificial intelligence can actually improve the security team's productivity.
And that to me is why Art of the Possible is really this year going to be heavily focused on artificial intelligence for sure. But I can tell you that the contests have a lot of that potential. That theme behind [00:07:00] it.
Sean Martin: Yeah. And it's interesting because I've been in attending the conference at different levels.
So I've, I've been at a vendor for many years in the expo hall, uh, wearing comfy shoes and, and, uh, wearing out my back and having beaten loads of folks. And then as an independent journalist, I'm now running ITSP magazine. And what's interesting to Marco's point is that the, the, the People, there's a lot of old faces that I recognize, a lot of folks that I've known over the years, right?
But last year was a big shift for me in the number of new people everywhere, speaking, uh, in the expo hall, on stage. And, and it's striking me because in the last couple of conversations I've had over the past few days, there's this idea of, I know being agile in software development [00:08:00] is important, being agile in our security controls and our posture and how we map that to the business is important.
That's nothing new. But I'm starting to see these new generations of companies and people leading new things and investors coming in from a different angle and bringing in different insights. And it's, it's really super cool. And I know AI has a lot of potential. A lot of attention. And I think some of the finalists in the, in the, uh, the sandbox, the top 10 finalists, right?
Innovation sandbox are rooted in AI, if I'm not mistaken. Um, but talk to me a little bit about, about kind of the, the change in who's participating in some of the programs you're working on. The company's coming to bear and how they present themselves. I'm on the, I see a cycle that it isn't just a cycle.
It's actually a growing to, to become even bigger and new better. [00:09:00]
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Well, I think going back to how you see the adversaries being nimble and agile, and we need to be as agile and nimble as possible. So not only, you know, I was talking about the productivity on the one side that artificial intelligence. The promise of that can bring, but also, uh, there's companies creating solutions to counter AI applications that are being used by the adversaries.
And I think, you know, we've heard about the perils and the, and the, uh, and the. Positive of what I can bring. I think I'm hoping that in this conference, when people come, they're able to experience different experts point of views, different perspectives on how that is going to manifest over the next two years.
And that I think it will be really telling about the industry. And it does allow for new voices to come in, you know, over the last 10 years. And I'm Mark. I'm sure you could talk to this too. Because you've been witnessing this is like if you think about the [00:10:00] trends that we've seen of the new ways that cybersecurity touches our lives.
So 10 years ago, people didn't even know what cybersecurity was. And then we have, you know, privacy people getting involved. Then we have sociologists getting involved. And now we have people who are coming in. Who are data scientists and completely different than your traditional computer science individual who's building something, but they're actually coming in to extract and find out and tease out what they can learn from it from both, like, you know, trying to find anomalies or finding other ways to be more productive.
So I think that, you know, we've always talked about how cybersecurity is just broad and it just takes in anybody and whether you're, you know, Later in your career or early in your career, there's a place for you to come and find yourself and find your peers. And that is part of what we try to build is this whole part about the community is finding ways to build connections and [00:11:00] to challenge one another and to build relationships.
And to feel good about being with one another. So when I think about those companies and I, I don't ever speak about my top 10 because actually to be honest, they're all my babies. I've said this several years in a row. You guys know how I feel.
Sean Martin: So,
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: um, but I, I think that, you know, if you go check them out.
There are some veterans in there. There are some people that are coming up with some new ideas. Launchpad this year, really, really cutting edge. In my opinion, like I'm looking at some of those companies and how they're approaching the problems that they're trying to solve and that comes out on Friday.
So April 5th is when we, well, it doesn't come out Friday. It comes out next week, but we are choosing the companies on Friday. And I just think that when you see some of what they're doing in that space, you're going to be surprised. So I actually am really hopeful for the future. I, like I said, there's lots of different people, different places and different ideas that all can come together.
It doesn't matter where you come from and find yourself here. [00:12:00]
Marco Ciappelli: Wow. Yeah, I have to agree. I mean, I felt pretty out of place. Out of place the first time that Sean dragged me to RSA conference.
Sean Martin: You're just out of place with me. That's all
Marco Ciappelli: No, I actually stayed attached to you and going around while you were running from one meeting to another It was the only thing that actually didn't create confusion in my head because it's so big There's some so many people but I didn't feel like you know my background in sociology and political science I'm like, what the hell am I doing here?
And now as you said the themes have always been more and more human human And it comes down to be, you know, a lot of social engineering and a lot of psychology and you said all of that. So do we see these? And let's talk, let's talk about the villages because this conversation, it came out yesterday with with Liz, Liz Wharton, which is going to have a panel there.
And it's about society. [00:13:00] It's about flying people securely, going to space, satellite that affect our life. It's, it's not just something in a silos out there in the, in the IT world. It's, it's our life. So the villages, I think that's where you can see this.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: I agree. I mean, I think that of course, if you're in the law track or you're in the privacy track, I think there's other tracks or sessions or places that you will definitely find your, like the more human element involved in this.
But I like the sandbox and I know you guys love the sandbox too. So just for those to make sure it's very clear because some people might be new to this podcast and everybody's going, what happened with the naming problem? Here you have the innovation sandbox contest, which is really just focused on 10.
Uh, entrepreneurs pitching to five incredible judges and that happens on monday And then we flip part of that space around and we create this really cool hangout area where you can [00:14:00] meet your friends And it's designed to be very approachable and there's amazing people come in and volunteer from all of the different villages So you guys had the aerospace village on but this year we're bringing in ai which we did not have last year.
We have app sec coming back. We love those guys. Cloud security is new cloud security, village, uh, dark arts, ICS sandbox, IOT. These guys are my staples and my friends. They're incredibly good people that show up every year and they're there. Because again, like this is what's so awesome about our, our industry is that people care and they're giving back and this is the sandbox is absolutely a place where you can witness that happening.
Oh, but the last one, there's two. I want to tell you about two. One is called physical security sandbox, and that's really fun because you're going to get to. Like take your little cards and with the RFID and hack that getting into hotel rooms. That will be fun. And the other one is the INL Village, INL, [00:15:00] um, the Idaho National Labs is bringing actually an escape room.
So that would be really fun. If you want to come and play in the escape room and get in there and, uh, and do some more hands on activities. Additionally, we'll have some really cool research talks on the stage. We have a coffee bar. We have like, A place to sit down and don't knock the place to sit down at RSA conference.
It's very important. You got couches. It's very comfortable. I expect to see you all there. Actually, I'm inviting you all. You're my friends. Come to my lounge.
Sean Martin: They're very comfy chairs. I think, uh, I don't know how many pillows you lost. From last year.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Take it with you. It's okay. They're all branded RSA conference.
You can have them.
Sean Martin: I think, I think a few went missing last year. Not for me. I was tempted that I didn't do it, but, uh, no, it is, it's a super comfy place and a great place to chat and meet new people. And of course we love a lot of the folks that, uh, that are there as well. [00:16:00] So the kind of going kind of to the naming.
Part of it. So there's the innovation sandbox. There's the
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: contest. Yeah,
Sean Martin: the sandbox contest. And then there's the, uh, innovation sand.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: No, it's just,
Sean Martin: there we go.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Because, you know, we played on the words for sandbox,
Sean Martin: right?
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: For the sandbox area where the villages are, because that's actually like what they're trying to do.
It's a, it's a playing space,
Sean Martin: right?
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: We're going to have a cool game in the AI village is a Gandalf game where you can play against an LLM and like. Learn about more about it, but a hands on activities, super fun with like a little cartoon character and like you get to different levels and that's what you're supposed to be doing in the sandbox.
And that's why we didn't want to change it.
Sean Martin: Right.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Innovation sandbox contest. I mean, my God, it's 19 years old.
Sean Martin: I know
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: you think about it, 80 acquisitions. Did you guys see how many, how [00:17:00] much money these companies have had invested in them? 13 and a half billion dollars. I'm like, Oh my goodness. Exactly. So that's the contest part.
And that's only one day, one afternoon, you know, very intense, super fun pitching. And then you have the fun zone on, it opens actually with cyber ops. And that's on Tuesday night. And you know who's gonna be on the stage then? Is gonna be Jon Strand and Jason, who are from Black Hills, and they'll be doing their backstories.
And breaches game. It's a game that they play and you get to play too. Uh, we'll feed you. You'll have fun. You can come check out the space.
Sean Martin: Love it. Love it. And then the, the other one that I was not doing a great job getting to is the launch pad, which is, uh, that's more of a shark tank style event, right?
Tell us about that.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: So launch pad this year [00:18:00] has three veteran judges, Enrique Salem from Bain Capital. Sarah Gow from, who is a Greylock veteran who started her own VC called Conviction and Barmak Mefta, who you probably might know from AlienVault, but he, uh, he joined with Ted Schlein and Kevin Mandia and they built Ballistic Ventures.
And that pitch zone is having the entrepreneurs who are still developing their product come out and give a five minute pitch to the, these judges. And at the end, the judges are just kind of like people who come to the audience. We'll be able to see something cool in the new technology. But they're also going to learn, like, what do the VCs care about?
Like, why are, what are the questions that they're asking? And learn a little bit more about the companies themselves. So it's a different slant than ISB, which is really looking for, ISB, excuse me, is Innovation Sandbox Contest, which is on Monday. And that one is looking for a technology that's going to change the, uh, cybersecurity industry in the next 12 months.
And when you think about it, like, I, I can name off, you [00:19:00] know, Phantom, for example. Thank you. They were hardly known when they got on our sandbox stage. And within 12 months, everybody was like, Oh my gosh, I have to have phantom. Or I could say the same about big ID or Exonius. Uh, and recently Talon, who, um, who was just bought by Palo Alto networks.
So they were up there. We have hidden layers. It's going to come back and say how their last year has been. But it's a pretty amazing contest for that. And it's different than log path. So I'm trying to make sure I'm delineated. Am I good? Do I? Did I do a good enough job? Do you guys know the difference?
What to expect?
Sean Martin: I think the best way to know is to go to each one, experience them. That's the, for me, that's, you have to be part of it. You have to be there. And I mean, yeah, as you're mentioning all these company names, I'm putting faces to all of them thinking, Oh yeah,
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: I remember these guys. I mean, anybody that gets in the top 10 has, uh, uh, just, just getting [00:20:00] there.
Already, I've already heard from the top 10, the stories of how much that's changed to the inbound that they're getting, how many people are like, Oh, they're paying attention to this company. They're like, Oh, who are they? And it's a really important process that the judges are great. You know, one of the things that I do want to just emphasize briefly is the judges that work.
really hard and they have a lot of companies that they have to go through because there's just so much good stuff coming into the contest. So many great submissions, but we have different perspectives of like what will make a good company. So we take the venture capitalists. We have a large company security strategist and Dory door who is at checkpoint.
So that would be somebody that might buy the company later. Paul Kotcher, who's an entrepreneur. So can they actually build the company and sell it or build the company and take it IPO? And he has that perspective because he was successful in doing that. You have a CISO and buyer and Nazarene Raze, who is the SVP and CISO at [00:21:00] Verizon.
So she is the buyer of this. Uh, and then you have Nilu, uh, Nilu Hao, who, Razi Hao, who actually, Has been on this panel for a really long time. But what her perspective and is she's just so incredibly good. She is also a venture capitalist, but she sits on the national security agencies, uh, board and she understands where big threats are coming from.
And because of that, like that perspective from the government is just always important to thinking about, you know, where are companies. Where will companies be successful? So anyways, each of them have their own perspective. I did mention Ashim and you guys know Ashim. He's from Greylock and he's just fabulous.
So, um, I, I feel very blessed that we have such a strong bench of judges and they will be able to identify, or they have identified the top 10 and they already talked about. Mute was on another interview with me and she's like, Oh my gosh, this year is going to be so hard. There are so many good companies.
Marco Ciappelli: All right. So here, here's the question for the person [00:22:00] that foresee the future, which is you, I mean, you have your hands in all of this. I mean, in the students, in the new coming in, in the people being there and they're judging the VC that you know what they're looking for. And then you see this company with the new technology, you mentioned at artificial intelligence and generative AI and how it's going to probably be one of the big game changer.
So the, the tough question for me is. If you had to put it in, into one bucket, right? And say, okay, this is kind of the trend. This is where it's going. This is what the VC are looking for. That is the kind of technology. Is it really just AI? Because it's hard for me to believe. I know is the buzzword and all of that and everything has to be AI in it.
But I also think that it's much more complex than that. So what, what's your thought on that? What are we looking for?
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: [00:23:00] In one word, I think it's plastics. No, I'm kidding. That's actually from The Graduate. It's a very old movie. Um, but, but what I'll say is this instead is that, um, That I agree with you, Marco.
It, you know what? Artificial intelligence is just a tool of how to deliver. So what we're seeing is it's just accelerating some of the great solutions that are coming out in the very different areas of focus, whether it's cloud security or, you know, application security or risk and compliance. Um, I think that, um, You're that it is going to be the buzzword right now because it's just changing how we actually think and do things differently, but long term, it's not, it will just be one more way.
It will be like a language that we use instead of it being a completely new technology that. Well, maybe it is changing everything, but I'll leave it there. I think that that is what I would say. It's just it's just a [00:24:00] tool it kit in the kit. The entrepreneurs are using in order to make the what they were actually focused on and solving that problem just more productive, more better, better at it.
Marco Ciappelli: And I agree, and I'm glad that you said this because it's like, if you think about. The computer, right? What do you do with it? What it's what you do with it that makes more of a difference than same thing with a smartphone and same thing. But so I, it's an amazing instrument and amazing tool, but it's, uh, it's what happened around it is the idea that that comes by reflecting on what can you do with it?
Yes, Sean, do you agree? Do you have any idea?
Sean Martin: I don't agree with any of this.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Excellent, Sean. All right. He's going to go back to plastics. That's what I was going to say.
Sean Martin: I am going back to plastics.
Marco Ciappelli: I'm going to use that, actually.
Sean Martin: Here's my thought. I don't know if it makes any sense because I often don't, but, uh, [00:25:00] so I think AI impacts a lot of stuff.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Yes.
The way we detect, the way we identify, the way we respond, the way we communicate up and down the stack to the executive team, down to. And let's sitting in the sock, um, and so I think it has a far reaching impact,
Sean Martin: but I don't where I'm, I'm hoping at some point we'll see it changes. We'll see something else besides identify, detect and respond.
Some big thing gets introduced like that, where we completely look at the way we tackle this problem today. And they, AI may uncover something there because it's going to be analyzing all this data and surface something in a way that we, our current brains can't picture. So it [00:26:00] may make ultimately come up with the thing that I think that I'm thinking will happen.
But I haven't seen that happen yet. That's my thought.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Okay. I'm game. I'm open. I won't put any money on like, you know, one way or the other. Because it is radically different than it had been two years ago. Like what people are doing with it is, HA is changing. And I did. I have seen some really cool applications.
you guys, I really recommend going and seeing the launchpad. I really like it. Yeah. Yeah. I like these guys. I like the IB guys too. Seriously, I think you guys are gonna, uh, I hope to see everybody there. It, it's a, it's worth it to get that really clean snapshot as you. You know, some of the technologies that are being applied in this way, and maybe we're not there quite yet, Sean, and maybe we are.
Maybe you'll see something on that stage. You'd be like, wow. All right.
Marco Ciappelli: She knows something that we don't know.
Sean Martin: Why there's lots, lots of secrets, I think, but, uh, no, I, I'm hopeful that. [00:27:00] There will be something that triggers a thought that we, that we need to look at this slightly differently.
Marco Ciappelli: Yeah, so with
Sean Martin: that, we'll see something
Marco Ciappelli: with that.
We are excited to be there. Everybody that is coming is very excited to be there now. Even more people that cannot come. They still follow us and all our conversation because we're going to share. With everybody what we see and the people we meet the story like we are already doing right now and we are very, very excited about this, but I would like for you, Cecilia, to take two minutes to put all your energy into the call for people to come to RSA conference and discover the future there.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Okay. Wow.
Marco Ciappelli: No pressure
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: here because that's exactly what I do for telling all of the, the companies that they have to pitch. They had three minutes. So when you guys put that buzzer on me, you'd be like, um, but honestly, like in all fairness, if [00:28:00] you can make it. I think you will be very excited about just our industry.
I think it's such a great refreshing place to go find people that are working hard on the really complex problems we're all trying to solve together and you find your people. I think that if you can't make it, I think following Marco and Sean on the, on their journey, Looking at what's coming out of all the press releases and all the other pieces around conference is equally as important.
I know, you know, we talk frequently and it's kind of funny because Hugh, who is the program chair for RSA Conference, and he also is the emcee for for Innovation Sandbox Contest. He frequently talks about how, um, like, the agenda for parties around RSA Conference is almost as challenging as getting the sessions on your, on your, uh.
Calendars for each of the different sessions at conference, and it's because everybody wants to see one another. There's just so much going on, and it's a place to connect. So if you can't [00:29:00] connect physically with us, try and find ways that you can connect with us virtually afterwards, follow us, and then try to figure a way that we can maybe get you there in another year.
But this year, we'll Going to be epic. It's going to be the goat. I know Linda's already talked about it. So I'm excited. I'm not going to say anything more. I'm going to leave it there and you guys have to go do a little research.
Sean Martin: All right. Perfect. Well, one thing we didn't mention during our chat with Linda and Britta was, this is very much in the art part of the equation.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Is it Alicia Keys?
Sean Martin: Alicia about her before we wrap up.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Okay. Hey, you guys, honestly. I have been here working for 10 years, and this is the most fun way to finish this event and to have Alicia Keys feel so blessed to have her. She was just actually on at the Super Bowl. So those of you that watch the Super Bowl, those of you don't check her out.
She has amazing songs. [00:30:00] She's an incredible voice. But more importantly, she's a great voice for women. And I say that lovingly to both you, Sean and Marco, because I know you guys care about this, but Just an incredible artist. So yes, she's awesome. And we also have Ted Lasso coming. He's going to be there.
So come check him out. Uh, and then a couple of surprises that are still to be announced that you'll have to follow. Come on. No, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't. I want to though. Sean, trust me. I'm like, I just want to tell people.
Sean Martin: All right. Well, well, we will be there and we will. Enjoy the surprise as we uncover it or experience it like everybody else, I guess.
Awesome. There you have it.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: Awesome.
Marco Ciappelli: Well, I am excited. Uh, we are all excited. We want people to stay excited to carry it for the entire month to come until the event starts. And then, yeah, I agree with you, Cecilia. Carry it after that. [00:31:00] It's, uh, whatever you take, either you're there or not. All this innovation, this idea could be next year could be yours idea and it's all about the community, which is very much what the art of possible is related to.
Sean Martin: And very much about a lot of the programs you, you look after. Exactly. Right. There is a space for everybody in sandboxes.
So so everybody stay tuned, follow Cecilia, visit us. Come join us in ours at RSA conference. San Francisco in May, starts May 3rd, if I'm not mistaken. And, uh, may,
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: May 6th. May 6th.
Sean Martin: May 6th. There we go. I'm, I'm arriving.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: I can't see my camera .
Sean Martin: I just gave Samo away. There we go. I'm arriving May 3rd. ,
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: you're arriving May 3rd, because that's actually when you gotta get started.
So I know we'll see you around May 3rd. We'll be hanging out with Sean and Marco. You guys can come join us. We won't open the doors for conference yet, but we'll be there.
Sean Martin: [00:32:00] Yes, we will be there. We will be there. Getting, getting ready, but, uh, stay tuned. Lots, lots to do there. Lots to do as we take our journey chats on the road to RSA conference.
Thanks everybody. Cecilia. Thank you.
Cecilia Murtagh Marinier: guys. See you soon. Bye.